Reaction to coaching plans

**Scott - Bordeaux** · Admin Posts: 670 Join date: 2008-07-27

help is much appreciated Andie.

Im not saying I wont look into what your saying, just that trying to manage over 400 coaches may be a bit too much for me to do!

I have played about with the idea of multiple coaches, the plans I have put fwd arent 100% set in stone, but they are about the best (and esiest) method we could put together.

Having said that, I do see that a level 6 coach maybe somewhat useless, if its a defensive one, are you seriously going to find 12 yth players to warrant that sort of coaching? Im doubtfull.

So maybe, the following?

A training centre at x cost per level

a youth training centre at x cost per level

senior coaches at x cost per level

youth coaches at x cost per level.

This would then give managers far more avenues to follow and make it a bit more technical, whilst still, from an admin side of things, be manageable to control?

andieglen · Sunday League Posts: 147 Join date: 2008-08-03 Age: 38

what i was thinking was

training centre at x cost

and hire a head coach (who gives everey first team player basic abs) more appealing!

then after that (2nd season) a youth coach, gives all youth x2 abs (as youth are impotant.) a must have!

after that a level 2 training center allows you an extra coach (any of, but only 1, gk def mid for) managers choice? trains 2 gives double to those players

then after that a coach for youth (gk def mid for) trains 2 gives double

then after that a level 3 center you can hire a level 3 coach (senior or youth or both, 1 per season) x3 abs trains 3 only

so on and so on

so basicly you would have:

training center x level
head coach
youth coach
1 additional 1st team coach x level
1 additional youth team coach x level

if you dont have head coach or youth coach you carnt hire extra staff

also extra staff are hired and fired to suit training center strength.

if anyone gets to a certain level of training center ie 4/5/6 a specialist coach can be hired ie position coach, scout, etc as listed before?

so a full set up could be

training center level 6
head coach
youth coach
1 additional 1st team coach level 6 (trains 6)
1 additional youth team coach level 6 (trains 6)
specialist coach 1
specialist coach 2
maybe a 3rd (dont know) lol

that makes it a bit more simple and more appealing as well i think?

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andieglen · Sunday League Posts: 147 Join date: 2008-08-03 Age: 38

basicly get a training center, 1 head coach then a youth coach (trains all) after that level 2 the same as your original idea. but later on you can add specialist coaches if wanted too

one season you could have a defensive coach the next a forward coach and so on

2 ideas in one?

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**Jonny-Atlanta** · Subject: Re: Reaction to coaching plans Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:44 pm

andieglen wrote:

basicly get a training center, 1 head coach then a youth coach (trains all) after that level 2 the same as your original idea. but later on you can add specialist coaches if wanted too

one season you could have a defensive coach the next a forward coach and so on

2 ideas in one?

Good idea.

What I though is if you could have the choice between a general coach which improves all of your players x1

Or, you could choose to buy a coach for one part of your team, but he improves them x3

Therefore, instead of building up your whole team gradually with a coach, you can concentrate on one area of weakness (eg weak defence) and improve that a lot.

Therefore, you could swap coaches at the end of each season to improve the full squad over the years, or go the easy route and get a all round coach.

This would be really interesting to see how people build up a team. All out for goals, or the Sam Allardyce way Razz

**Scott - Bordeaux** · Admin Posts: 670 Join date: 2008-07-27

andieglen wrote:

basicly get a training center, 1 head coach then a youth coach (trains all) after that level 2 the same as your original idea. but later on you can add specialist coaches if wanted too

one season you could have a defensive coach the next a forward coach and so on

2 ideas in one?

but there would still be 400+ coaches in the game with that plan andie, doing an EOS update would be an absolute nightmare!!!!

I do like the idea of seperate senior coaches and youth coaches, original plan was ok, but when you think a level 6 coach could coach 12 yths it was a bit far.

andieglen · Sunday League Posts: 147 Join date: 2008-08-03 Age: 38

Scott - Bordeaux wrote:

andieglen wrote:

basicly get a training center, 1 head coach then a youth coach (trains all) after that level 2 the same as your original idea. but later on you can add specialist coaches if wanted too

one season you could have a defensive coach the next a forward coach and so on

2 ideas in one?

but there would still be 400+ coaches in the game with that plan andie, doing an EOS update would be an absolute nightmare!!!!

I do like the idea of seperate senior coaches and youth coaches, original plan was ok, but when you think a level 6 coach could coach 12 yths it was a bit far.

well i can see your warming too the head/youth coach idea! as said more appealling.

the one thing i can see that puts you off is the 400 plus coaches.

TBH i know i made a suggestion but if needed not affraid of doing the leg work?

but if honest, these 400+ coaches would be more of a cosmetic thing than anything.

depending on the idea your going to go with (mine/yours/both)

the only reason you need names etc is for the age factor but if you think about it you dont?

have 1 page on site for training ie

click on training have all teams listed!

Sevilla
TRAINING CENTER LEVEL: ?
HEAD COACH B_Bob age 57 (X1)
YOUTH COACH A_Bob age 52 (X2)

additional coach
SENIOR: LEVEL 2 GK age 47 (X2)
YOUTH: LEVEL 2 FOR age 41 (X2)

specialist coaches
1,2,3 (whatever)

at the start of each season players in each roster are marked with their multiplyers ie X1, X2, X3, X4 easy to keep an eye on!

YOUR IDEA.

level 4 coach: A_Coach 37 1 2 1 4

yeah you do need to name them lol

so with mine, who says they need named, a level 2 doubles a level 3 triples apart from the age thing do we need to have 400+ coaches??????

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harry@fctwente · Subject: Re: Reaction to coaching plans Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:18 am

I must say Andie's ideas are great, but from an administrator's point of view I can see some difficulties. Why not start with the original idea, probably with the head and youth coach idea added to it. And let's wait and see how this works out for about two or three seasons and then evaluate this system.

About Andie's calculating: yes, I think 3,5 mil. for only a few Abs for 1 player may be too high cost.

And about the 400 coaches issue. Why not set a limit to the amount of coaches. Like in real life, there aren't loads of good coaches. So set a limit, or make coaches available by auction.

**craigpp** · Subject: Re: Reaction to coaching plans Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:50 am

I very much like the concept of training a player to be a coach once he retires. Great system. Not like it will be of use to me any time soon lol!

**craigpp** · Subject: Re: Reaction to coaching plans Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:52 am

harry@fctwente wrote:

I must say Andie's ideas are great, but from an administrator's point of view I can see some difficulties. Why not start with the original idea, probably with the head and youth coach idea added to it. And let's wait and see how this works out for about two or three seasons and then evaluate this system.

Fully agree with this quote. I say we take baby steps with this kind of addition which, even in its original form, will change the way we play AFM. I'm sure results/trends after even one season will be clear for all to see.

**Scott - Bordeaux** · Admin Posts: 670 Join date: 2008-07-27

ok.

i gather the general consensus (spelt correct?) is we introdyce the original system, but with the added extra of youth coaches alongside senior coaches. Then, providing this all go's smoothly, we can if needed expand the system.

Give me a bit of time and I will update and finalise the plans, and get them out to you all